founder dogs of the NI, Ute and Tamaskan

Danielle wrote:Is Kiskas (Kizzy) the same as Kizzy? Does anyone know who their/her dam and sire are?

I have Kiskas (kizzy) as Mahlek Inuka II's Dam, who is Ammik's dam.
And Kizzy as Mahlek Magenta's dam, who is Mahlek Sakuta's dam.

the only info I have on Kizzy is

Sire Buck
(Buck- Sire Moose/ Dam Majestic)


Dam Willow
(Willow-Sire Alpha/ Dam Majestic)

of course I don't know if this is correct, hopefully someone will post more info

arctic wrote:

Lanie wrote:

sally wrote:why dont you try asking the person that bred them

Just what I was gonna say, Im sure jk will be more than happy to help you both

sorry I don't know who bred Buck, Kizzy or Willow

I hope JK posts some info and pics on the thread, then we can all share them, that would be great, I am still hoping to somehow do a picture pedigree. I did find some pics of Eddies dogs on this site http://www.twatha-utonagan.com/info/history.htm although I don't want to promote this site the pictures are great to see, so there are more pics out there.

As these dogs are on the Ute pedigrees as well, perhaps someone from the Utes can post some more info or pics, and the reason I started this thread is that there are people from all the breed groups here. Hopefully more info on the dogs will come to light.

I would have assumed as the dogs in the pedigrees where the dams to Mahlek Dogs that JK bred from the Dams so would more than likely know there background, dont you think??

Also I dont like promoting the Twatha site eithers as she seriously shouldnt be breeding for a long tiome to come, but the pictures can be found with google,

I sometimes think in this age we expet too much ie early 80's not everyone even had cameras, then you had to buy film get them developed etc etc, they didnt take lots o piccies as we do now, also by all accounts Edie wasnt the best at keeping accurate records, and split her dogs up and rehome them so it must be with a degree of dificulty for even the original breeders to provide us with the information we would like. I agree it would be nice to see loads of pictures and know all the facts but lets face it the one woman who had them all isnt here anymore so personally I am grateful to anyone who shares there pics and info but I also know that there will be conflicting memories and not because people want to cause bother but because that is all they have sometimes...memory..

Does anyone know the whereabouts of Jan Farrington (Redkite)? She was also heavily involved at the start maybe she could shed some light.

[quote="Lanie"][quote="arctic"]

Lanie wrote:

sally wrote:why dont you try asking the person that bred them

I would have assumed as the dogs in the pedigrees where the dams to Mahlek Dogs that JK bred from the Dams so would more than likely know there background, dont you think??

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Lainie, this is going to sound controversial, but it isn't meant to be at all, I am only interested in the dogs, and not the politics between the groups, so please don't think that this post is to start an argument, it isn't.

On the pedigrees of a few of the early dogs, there were misunderstandings adding the kennel name on the pedigrees. The kennel names were mistakenly added at the beginning of the dogs name instead of at the end of it.

[quote="Lanie"][quote="arctic"]

Lanie wrote:

sally wrote:why dont you try asking the person that bred them

JK bred from the Dams so would more than likely know there background, dont you think??

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sorry don't know how to do a multi quote lol...


yes I hope JK can share any info she has on the dogs

[quote="arctic"][quote="Lanie"]

arctic wrote:

Lanie wrote:

sally wrote:why dont you try asking the person that bred them

I would have assumed as the dogs in the pedigrees where the dams to Mahlek Dogs that JK bred from the Dams so would more than likely know there background, dont you think??

..

Lainie, this is going to sound controversial, but it isn't meant to be at all, I am only interested in the dogs, and not the politics between the groups, so please don't think that this post is to start an argument, it isn't.

On the pedigrees of a few of the early dogs, there were misunderstandings adding the kennel name on the pedigrees. The kennel names were mistakenly added at the beginning of the dogs name instead of at the end of it.

Arctic that is a very good point, maybe you could be a bit more specific as to which dogs you are refering

[quote="arctic"][quote="Lanie"]

arctic wrote:

Lanie wrote:

sally wrote:why dont you try asking the person that bred them

I would have assumed as the dogs in the pedigrees where the dams to Mahlek Dogs that JK bred from the Dams so would more than likely know there background, dont you think??

..

On the pedigrees of a few of the early dogs, there were misunderstandings adding the kennel name on the pedigrees. The kennel names were mistakenly added at the beginning of the dogs name instead of at the end of it.

hearsay,hearsay,hearsay

[quote="sally"][quote="arctic"]

Lanie wrote:

arctic wrote:

Lanie wrote:

sally wrote:why dont you try asking the person that bred them

I would have assumed as the dogs in the pedigrees where the dams to Mahlek Dogs that JK bred from the Dams so would more than likely know there background, dont you think??

..

On the pedigrees of a few of the early dogs, there were misunderstandings adding the kennel name on the pedigrees. The kennel names were mistakenly added at the beginning of the dogs name instead of at the end of it.

hearsay,hearsay,hearsay

i find all this fascinating, i would love to know more of their ancestory as im sure many others would.
can you shed any light on this sally ?

i have three friends that used to live at eddie harrisons, so yes i do know a bit, and i,m also going to meet jk and tina as soon as i can

don't know if I already asked this, on the NI and Ute databases, is there a dog with the registration number 1?

Im sure Tacante was TUS oo1 but will need to double check when I get home.

Lanie wrote: Im sure Tacante was TUS oo1 but will need to double check when I get home.

Thanks Lanie

Lanie wrote: Im sure Tacante was TUS oo1 but will need to double check when I get home.

did you find out if Tacante was Ute number one, and any other info, date he was registered as a Ute, date of birth, piccie